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[Blog] No Win in 14 Games - Is It All Bad?
Written by superblueflude on Monday, 26th Oct 2009 10:48

OK, so another hard fought match, another point.

rytext">This blog has been submitted by superblueflude. To view more from this author click here. TWTD blogs are added by site users unedited by the admins. Want to become a TWTD blogger? Simply send us your first article via the Contact Us page. A good result I say, away from home, against a team parking everything, apart for their team coach, on the goal line.

But again, everyone is on the bandwagon; Keane's mistake this, I can't believe he did that etc. Now I for one am happy with a point, we're three games unbeaten, and are at home to Derby on Saturday.

Why am I so positive? well look at the facts, yes 14 games and no wins, but we have drawn eight and lost six. Now look at the other teams close to us, lost loads more, except they've won one or two. Where am I going with this? Well, say we beat Derby on Saturday and follow that up with another win, that's two, the same as Plymouth, out of the drop zone and about 18th I believe we could be. A third win after that and that's mid-table.

So, why so glum everyone? Yes, wins are great but don't forget draws are important too. Our backline are stronger, the midfield are starting to create opportunities and I truly feel Keane will stick with Stead and Walters up front to start banging them in.

If you have workmates, wives, girlfriends etc who laugh at where we are, keep saying this to them We may be bottom of the league, but no one can beat us!

This is the important thing, the win will come, but not every team can become invincible!




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naa added 13:54 - Oct 26
I think we can all just agree that Superblueflude has read too many self-help books (or has attended some American-style happy-clappy seminar) and is wanting us to share in the lovely positivity he feels each day as a result.

Most of us are normal British people who like to moan.

The rest are just idiots.


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FormerlyCGS added 13:57 - Oct 26
Soniblue i shouldnt have said what i did in my last post - your still a fcukin idiot tho!

Bluearmy - I call the poeple idiots after they insult me. A forum is for people to express there view be it positive or negative! People can write what they like who am i to tell em not to but what i wont have is people insulting me when they have no grounds to do so! I've said it before and I will say it now. Our comments on here have NO BEARING WHATSOEVER on the teams results - its down to the manager - so with our inability to win a game i will continue to write negative posts until there is something positive to write!

Superblieflude - I hope they do!
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FormerlyCGS added 13:59 - Oct 26
Oh and DrJeckyll what that gotta do with itfc? Keep things in perspective ya goon
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UEFA81 added 14:07 - Oct 26
Yeah, but how do you define positive and negative? A comment what somebody says may be deemed to be positive by one person but negative by another person - that's something else that is a matter of opinion. In my case, all the threads I see about having 'trust in Keane', 'we will win the next game', etc - to me they are actually negative comments, I mean, what's positive about having trust in Keane? Somebody show me the evidence thus far. What's positive about saying "we will win the next game" when it never actaully transpires. It's blind faith, negativity and stupidity. It's time a lot of folks on here took off their rose-tinted Keane spectacles and saw things for what they really are and then realise who actually got us in this position in the first place.


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FormerlyCGS added 14:25 - Oct 26
I agree Uefa81 alot of em on ehre seem to be of the opinion that if we think were better than bottom were not actually bottom!


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sames1972 added 14:35 - Oct 26
Uefa 81 - you say "who actually got us in this position in the first place" - well you can blame Keane, but at the end of the day it is the players who win, lose or draw the matches. I seem to remember, not so long back, how the VAST majority of town supporters were near wetting themselves at the idea of RK managing our team, especially with the money that ME has put in. Remeber the "hype" pre-season? Does 14 games make RK such a bad manager all of a sudden?
Granted - results have not gone our way and we are where we are as a result of some poor performances........... but by whom exactly??........... the players!!!

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FormerlyCGS added 14:35 - Oct 26
I see no comeback - animal, pickles where are ya? Can you now maybe see i'm the one who actually wirtes the most valid points?
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wiggymcbigalow added 14:37 - Oct 26
My lord i've read some rubbish in my time but this blog and, it has to be said most of the comments written about it top the lot! Facts are - we've not won a game yet. I've been to every game and enjoyed many of them because I love going to the football and have been watching town since before I could talk. I'm not someone who says we should sack any manager unless the club are in truly dire straights. It is. We will be relegated by February if we carry on as we have so far.

Every excuse under the sun has been given. You must all be running out of new ones. Rebuilding a team should not involve a plummet down the league and a relegation. I'm not short sighted, I just don't want to watch a season (or probably more) in league one. I'll be at every game again but trips to MK Dons and Swindon quite frankly do not appeal.

Running into the last three games it appeared that after them we would be better off. 3 winnable games against poor (mediocre at best) opposition, none of whom have had anything like the money we have had to spend. When Evans took over the club it all looked very exciting, but since then things have gone downhill rapidly. There seems to be little explanation for this.

Keane spent more money than any other manager has for us in this division, and he seems to have lost confidence in his own signings as much as he has in the players who were already here. Priskin is not getting a sniff, I don't feel I have any idea of who he is as a player. Delaney... well we've all seen him. Even Martins who has shown some interesting moments now seems to be largely out of favour. Keane changes players all the time, very few have had a decent run in the team.

Someone must save our club now. Lets nick another Col U manager. Someone who can understand the job they are doing as it sure seems Mr Keane has lost the plot as a manager (if he ever had it). I think we are seeing the reults of what happens when two people who know nothing about football take over a club even if one (Evans) is very rich and one (Clegg) is a winner.
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Surco72 added 14:55 - Oct 26
sames1972...no 16 games without a win makes Keane manager of the year !!!! It is the manager who picks the team,signs new players,spends the money,picks the formation ,tactics ,publicly slags off the players ,or drops them,or isolates them and who should build confidence and bring the best out of them . If it is down to the players why is there any need for any managers ? Ferguson and Wenger not good managers its just their players play well ,get real .
The real question you should all be answering is what makes Keane such a good manager taking the favourites Sunderland to the title whilst spending a lot of money ? Then going on a losing streak in the Premier and quitting leaving his assistant to save them from relegation ?
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naa added 15:05 - Oct 26
Must admit, Keane does seem to be getting a lot of grace from some fans here and I can only assume it is because he got Sunderland promoted and then kept them up the following year (just).

He did spend £80M though! Burley did the same for us - with a lot more style, for about 5p.

Although Marcus Evans is well off, Keane won't have anything like those kind of funds this time round, and I'm already worried that his scouting network doesn't seem to extent beyond Sunderland's reserves or Man Utd's youth team/reserves.

And he sacked our european scout, who had been resonsible for some very good signings for Burley (and a few duffers admittedly, but generally very cheap duffers nonetheless). A very foolish move, unless you have someone proven in place - which he doesn't.
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tommyblue added 15:06 - Oct 26
get david johnson out of retirement
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tommyblue added 15:25 - Oct 26
what would we get out of sacking keane?

- who would we replace him with??
- who would want to come here??
- what players could he attract??
- then he needs time getting his ideas across
- what would it do to team morale??
- what would he do with his coaching staff, new faces or stick?

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nthstd added 15:33 - Oct 26
Sorry pass the whiskey Draws aren't all bad. We need wins Draws will do if we are not winning but if this continues we are relegated......simples!
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Lightningboy added 15:48 - Oct 26
"What would we get out of sacking Keane" ?!

Possibly our first win of the season?

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tommyblue added 15:52 - Oct 26
i wasnt defending him or criticising him i was genuinley asking what could happen or what would happen..
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FormerlyCGS added 15:54 - Oct 26
Tommy blue there are plenty of managers who would be more than capable of saving us, what do people think to Steve Coppell?

I think it would work wonders for our team morale!
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Surco72 added 16:03 - Oct 26
Tommyblue...

How about Aidy Boothroyd? Knows the league had success before lives in the area?
Or Lee Clark doing a great job at Huddersfield ?
On the players front we have good players IMO just look scared and nervous , and maybe Clark could bring Rhodes back LOL !! And to me Keane seems to be struggling to attract players anyway ?
Team morale may be lifted as everyone will be given a fair go again and new managers do not always need a lot of time look at Redknapp and Robins at Barnsley.
I say stick with Keane at the moment anyway but his time is for results is getting shorter and shorter but a new manager could not take us any lower could he ?
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tommyblue added 16:11 - Oct 26
but i guess we wont no until if it happen or we will never no, yes our current situation is not good enough far from it, if we look at the facts and stats and go all sky sports on the situation we have taken a backwards step from since magilton and quite a large one at that (we only have to look at the league table), we havent gone and brought a centre back we desperatley need, yes macauley had a good game but the man isnt good enough. a striker or fox in the box if you like now that type of player is a must in any promotion chasing team and lets face it at the start of the season (or since ME took over) that is what we are or at least should be as we are in a better position financally than most championship clubs. so thats not stopping us its not preventing us to go out and get these type of players, well we will struggle now but in the summer it was a must.

the whole thing is bloody frustrating, i will back keane and continue to do so but he doesnt do himself any favours, media comments, player sales, signings, team selection, constant rotating etc etc

the best thing us fans can do is act as a 12th man every game and hope the team reacts to it, not constant playground arguing on here, everyone has a opinion and a right to have an opinion and sadly if people dont agree with you just have to respect it, this is my opinion people can respect it agree with it or disagree with it.

COYB ipswich till i die
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dobbie73 added 16:22 - Oct 26
callumgarryskeemer - I know we don't agree on much, and I don't like talking about replacements for Keano while he is very much still here, but IF he went, then Coppell would probably be my first choice to succeed him. Rather him than Curbs anyway, who seems to be everyone's favourite.

TommyBlue - those are all very pertinent questions, and one that EVERY fan needs to ask themselves before demanding Keano goes. I have argued all season that to replace Keano now would hurt us more than help us, even if (as Lightning boy says) we got our first win. I'm just not convinced we would get many more as the squad would be disrupted too much! At least under Keano there would be stability and continuity - he and the players know each other, and painfully slow as it is, there does seem to be some forward movement. With a new manager we'd have to go through all this palava again!!
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FormerlyCGS added 16:34 - Oct 26
Dobbie73 first time for everything! Believe it or not underneath all my rranting and calling for Keanes head there is a knowledge of football and ITFC there - It just dont come through when were bottom of the league!
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UEFA81 added 16:50 - Oct 26
dobbie - I agree that the players and Keane will by now know one another but that's as far as it goes. Yes, as you said there will be continuity under Keane - a continuity of not winning matches - how can that be good for the club? As a replacement I would suggest Shearer or maybe Southgate and I know they would be tempted to come and manage our club because of it's proud history and achievements and respect it has in the world of football.

Perhaps ousting Keane would rock the boat but our 'boat' is currently in very stormy waters so a little more rocking would have only a negligible (if any) detremental effect to the team. I mean, come on - how can it get any worse? One thing I do know is that things will not get better under Keane, he's not right for Ipswich, he never will be. Yes, a few wins will come our way, that is bound to happen, but this anticipated good string of results people are talking about just will not happen, trust me (not until Mr Keane has departed). Relegation is certain unless things change and change quickly. That's my opinion for what it's worth.

Anyway, we agreed to disagree. Cheers mate.


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Lightningboy added 16:52 - Oct 26
I won't shed a tear if Keane gets the boot..I was gutted when Burley got sacked (the worst i've ever felt as a town fan)..Royle took us a far as he could but to be fair to him he had his 3 best players sold under him..I worshipped Jim on the pitch and was glad he was given his chance tho' I still feel sad that he's not here now with his much needed passion.

The problem I have with Keane is I just do not trust his judgement..fine,he had a very good first season with sunderland BUT how much of that was a fluke?..Supposing as Roy said a few weeks ago "he's been found out" to not be a very good manager?

dobbie , you said your gut feeling tells you that it will turn around - my gut feeling tells me it won't...for the sake of our club I hope one of us is proved right sooner rather than later.

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FormerlyCGS added 16:55 - Oct 26
Things cannot get any worse and have not been this bad for a number of years!

I too am of the opinion that a change would lift our current squad of players, and that the only place we are heading is down with him in charge!

I say the sooner we change him the better off we will be!
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Lightningboy added 16:56 - Oct 26
..Plus I don't see how getting rid of Keane will disrupt the squad that much..what is needed in this situation is an experienced manager with a cool head capable of managing this more than decent squad of players to safety.

Curbishley,Coppel...Royle?
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naa added 17:05 - Oct 26
So now we've moved onto who would replace Keane and this is where some people's delusions kick in.

Southgate? A man just sacked (admittedly a little harshly) for taking a team of UEFA finalists to relegation in three years.

Shearer? A man with almost no managerial experience, except that of relegating his boyhood heroes (and he'd never, ever come here anyway)

I can only assume both suggestions were a joke.

And Royle? He did very well for us in the circumstances, but he's several years older with no manager's jobs in the interim period and he was only ever firefighting before and I want to see someone come in with a long-term plan.

Which is exactly what Keane and the board should have done, rather than this 2 year bollokcs. Then we wouldn't be selling our youngsters and buying in loads of sub-standard players in an attempt at a rapid team revolution.
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